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Silvertop · Joined: 26 Mar 2007 Posts: 6 Location: Sittinghere

Whats that all about ? Confused

Is it to lessen the anglers chances of catching fish or a means of limiting the amount of a specific bait entering the water ? If it is the latter then why not have blanket bans, limits etc impossed on all types of baits used.

For example no more than half a pint of maggots, half a can of sweet corn or a pound of groundbait, to be used per session, or match Wink

Please do your own conversions from imperial to metric.

All the best
Silvertop

John · Joined: 03 Aug 2005 Posts: 69

A number of 'regulars' at Grange complained that excessive introduction of boilies by a few anglers had an adverse affect on sport for the majority. To allow debate the issue was put to AGM, resulting in the decision to ban feeding of boilies. Nuts were also banned in case a similar problem arose there.

The reasoning was the same as when floating baits were banned. Massive over use. Reports of up to 10k of boilies introduced in a session by a single angler were received. This is considered excessive for a small lake, where, either they lay uneaten and affect water quality, or fish become pre-occupied, thus spoiling sport for the majority. Floating baits were banned when some people thought that the more they threw in the more they would catch. As a result the margins were often a foot thick with uneaten dog biscuit, encouraging rats and other vermin. Fish became pre-occupied with floating baits, nothing else worked, and the 'average angler' could not catch. It also contributed to loss of some fish when the lake overflowed. Fish followed floating food out of the lake and across the marshes during summer flood conditions. It is hoped to avoid this in future.

The AGM decided that Grange Pond is (and should remain) a good mixed fishery where the majority of members may enjoy a good day's sport. It is not (and won't be allowed to become) a big carp fishery. The club have provided Fletchers for the out and out carp anglers. When the carp in Grange become 'too big' for 'normal tackle' they will be removed and replaced with smaller fish. Carp rods should not be necessary at Grange.

The club avoids bans except in exceptional circumstances. However, should excesses of any detrimental bait impact on the sport of others and become an issue in the future, it will be looked at (e.g. catmeat, where a tin is considered reasonable, more than two excessive). The vast majority of members are sensible, but there are always a few who spoil things!

During summer and autumn 2006 I had many anglers inform me that sport at Grange improved since feeding floaters ceased. Hopefully there will be a similar response relating to boilies during 2007.

Krony · Joined: 19 Jun 2006 Posts: 11 Location: Derby

I agree that all baits should be limited on Grange. I would also like to see spods, banned at grange. I don't mind them being used responsibly but i see these things flying all over the place onto the island or into my feeder swim, depositing bait almost at random.
Other topics for discussion

Allowing to cast at the island only from certain pegs

Anglers under the age of 16 only allowed to fish if accompanied by an adult member.

I missed the AGM but i would like to hear any other opinions on these points. I do like to fish Grange but find myself increasingly avoiding weekends because of the reasons above.

John · Joined: 03 Aug 2005 Posts: 69

There was quite a discussion about indiscriminate casting at Grange. Bad examples quoted included casting at the island from any peg, casting to the opposite bank, or even two pegs along own bank, totaly ignoring other anglers. The climax was the new Grange Pond Rule below, which now applies:

New Grange Pond Rule 4 reads: 'Members may fish as far as half the distance between their chosen peg and the next peg on either side. Similarly, members may only fish as far as half way to the opposite bank. Members MUST restrict their activities to these boundaries. A member must not allow his/her tackle, bait, groundbait or other feed to intrude into a neighbour's swim.'

This effectively means that only a restricted number of pegs have access to island casts. Peg 22 has a cast along the left side of the island from that peg. Pegs 23 and 26 cast to the island, and peg 27 casts to the right corner and along the right side. No other peg at Grange now has an island cast. For pegs 3, 11, 12 etc., the island is beyond half way and therefore out of bounds.

With regard to 'over-feeding', those present at AGM intimated that if there is evidence of overfeeding, the issue could be re-visited at a future meeting. Immediate action could be taken as the committee would consider any evidence and would be expected to introduce an interim policy as a temporary measure until ratification at the next AGM.

Regarding unaccompanied junior members, the vast majority are reasonable well behaved. When there are cases of misbehaviour these should be reported to the committee (via the General Sectretary) in writing. If necessary, involve the bailiff. Give full details, dates, times and names of any witness. Appropriate action will then be taken.

bob · Joined: 30 Mar 2007 Posts: 3

i applaud all efforts to make grange pond a pleasant fishing experience . i fish grange pond at least once a week , sometimes 3 or 4 times from april to november . floating bait, many occasions i have wittnessed heavey feeding of bread and floating pellets . fishing from pegs, i have seen kids fishing in the corners, fishing one peg with their tackle occupying another, leaving tackle unattended whilst fighting somewhere with banksticks or cattapulting stones at each other , ive even seen two youths fishing with a roaring fire next to them .
my point is , not just to have a moan because i think grange pond is lovely place to fish , that you can make as many rules as you like but they're useless unless people stick to them and the ones most likely to abuse them are the juveniles .

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